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Project Get Ready Technical Adviser Meeting Minutes

May 13, 2010

Attendees:

McCaffrey, Ryan – AmeriCenters

Flavin, Andy – Dominion

Patterson, Dave – Mitsubishi

Wynne, Avera – Tampa Bay Regional Planning Council

Kawai, Hiroko – Rocky Mountain Institute

Crotty, Fran – State of Minnesota

Schey, Stephen – ETEC

Dessanti, Daniel – National Grid

Oney, Emory – EDTA

Del Monaco, John – Public Service Enterprise Group

Castro, Joe – City of Boulder

Davis, Peter – City of Austin

Sharp, Korin – DTE

Groll, Stephanie – City of Cambridge, MA

James, Art – Oregon Department of Transportation

Parker, John – Get Ready Central Florida

Gilbert, Marty – Walmart

Rosinski, Bob – EV Charge America

Daniels, Nelson – City of Raleigh, NC

Gilbert, Kelly – Kansas City Metropolitan Energy Center

Kramer, Felix – CalCars

Dahlberg, Al – Brown University

Fernandes, John – Constellation Energy

Detjen, Chris – NextEnergy

Scott, Paul – Plug In America

Penney, Terry – NREL

Hamman, Jeff – Portland General Electric

Schewel, Laura – US Berkeley

Barghout, Jeff – Advanced Energy

Gabel, Dan – EDTA

Bjork, Thor – Xcel

Clapper, Mark – General Electric

Sikes, Dean – Cleco Power

Waters, Michael – Progress Energy

MacArthur, John – Portland State University

Echols, Ben – Georgia Power Company

Gale, Allan – Ford

Coley, Bryan – Georgia Power Company

Markel, Tony – NREL

Wilson, Zach – CM2 Limited

Potts, Sarah – Clinton Foundation

RMI: Matt Mattila, Tripp Hyde, Hiroko Kawai



===Agenda overview and Updates (Matt Mattila)===

Kansas City and Vancouver, CANADA signed MOU for PGR.

EDTA and other NGOs: RMI is coordinating efforts among NGOs so that Cities don’t get inundated by different NGO’s approaching with similar topics.

A heads up on Plug-in 2010 Conference in July

PGR may have an informal lunchtime meeting, please let us know if you are interested



===Main Discussion==

Garage Orphans

ETEC- potential for charging valet and more workplace charging

Level III Charging: Does it help accelerate the EV market penetration?

ETEC- rolling out ~1 Level III for every 30 Level II and running evaluations on usage

[Dave Patterson: Mitsubishi Motors - david.patterson@na.mitsubishi-motors.com ]

Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) and Mitsubishi Motor, Nissan are working together to address the issue of “garage orphans”.  Most people in Japan don’t have garage to install charging device.  TEPCO and Mitsubishi Motors are preparing “fast” charging stations at LAWSON convenience store locations, apartment complex valet services, Mitsubishi car dealership locations, and the Japanese government also is trying to help install charging stations.

186 Stations will be built within the Tokyo-Kanagawa area.

U.S.-Japan Joint Program to develop charging stations is work-in-progress.

GE – current ratio for Level III to Level II is low- no current US standard for Level III

ETEC to provide Level III charging stations in partner cities

Will collect and share data

Who owns charging stations?

[Minnesota]

Initially city-owned, then, hoping that private sector will own for profit making opportunities.

RI – initial ~50 stations owned by private entities, some discussions/interest from municipality and utilities for future options

NC – currently costs covered by entity owning it, but some may rate base a portion of it which affects all rate payers

Houston – currently all stations are on Houston property or right of way. City does not want to be in charging station “business”. Hope to see private enterprises and utilities join in soon

In Amsterdam the 100 stations are operated by the local utility but owned by the city

[Steve Schey, ETEC]

Charging stations to proliferate to generate revenues for business owners.  Currently tasked to test out revenue generating options.

Quick charging—does it potentially deteriorate batteries?

[Dave Patterson, Mitsubishi Motors]

No, it won’t.  Intelligence on the vehicle will monitor and regulate to ensure the battery’s longevity.

  • There are two sides of “Intelligence” to monitor: battery management system and the grid monitoring.
  • SAE Evaluating the charging standards for the U.S. market.  CHΛdeMO[1] (Charging station standards developed by Japanese automakers and TEPCO)[2]

(moderator’s note) Studies are being conducted and anecdotal evidence suggests no significant reduction in battery longevity based on limited V2G testing http://www.magicconsortium.org/

Where does intelligence live?

EVSE providers prefer it to be in the station because it would be easier to meter/monitor

Utility Waiting Period- not accurate and unlikely to be enforceable if it were accurate

(moderator’s note)- question stemmed from an article stating a utility executive claimed there will be a waiting period

[Kelly Gilbert, Kansas City]

Q: Battery warranty: Compatible with State’s inspection safety regulations?

[Dave Patterson, Mitsubishi]

A: 24,000 miles/2 year warranty is set by the Federal gov.

Kelly to look into more detailed information about this topic.

Signage to identify EV Charging, EV Parking,

Arizona Legislature statute for EV parking enforcement (http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/28/00876.htm&Title=28&DocType=ARS)

Oregon

  • ICE vehicles to be out of EV Spot
  • To guide EV drivers to identify where EV charging is available.
  • Additional signage examples from Cambridge, MA
  • Amsterdam will tow diesel vehicles parked in EV spaces
  • For some cities enforcement depends on who has jurisdiction over spaces (public vs private)
[1] http://www.greencarcongress.com/2010/01/akerwade-20100115.html

[2] Nissan, Mitsubishi, Subaru and TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company) developed the standards for LEVEL III Charging Stations for EV.